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sach   79 posts since
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Nov 13, 2009 9:09 PM

Any relapsed ALL young adults getting BMT? My (& my brother's) story... new poster

Hi all...


I'm trying to find some support in dealing with my brother's relapse.  I'm new to posting, and found out about his relapse 2 and a half weeks ago, but waited to post as I wanted to make sure it was okay with him for me to write about him on here.


This is all really hard right now, and I find myself online a lot as I don't know what to do.  I live and work outside of the US, and had actually just started at this job about a week before finding out about my brother's pre-B cell ALL diagnosis back in August 2007.  He was 19 at the time, just about to turn 20.  He had been having back pain all summer, getting worse, in his ribs too, etc, and nobody could figure it out.  Just before I left the states for my job abroad, he got on a scale and decided the scale was off as it said he had lost something like 10 or 15 pounds.  He'd also been having night sweats.  Somehow, we didn't put all this together as a really bad sign, we had been focused on getting him to back doctors to figure out the back pain, and I was also focused on packing to leave the country.  He didn't have recurring infections or bruising or those other typical ALL symptoms.  Anyway, his primary care doc finally checked him into the hospital on August 1, and was diagnosed and started treatment on August 3.  I took unpaid leave from my job, and was back in the states from mid-August to mid-November, when he seemed to be doing well enough for me to return to my job abroad.  My brother was treated on a pediatric protocol, but not at a pediatric hospital (he didn't want to go to the teaching hospital and be poked and prodded by residents all the time).  He had 2 years of chemo total, and was in remission after 3 weeks from the start, and never had major problems through the two years.  I don't think they did MRD (minimal residual disease) testing, though, which now makes me mad, as I know it seems useful in determining risk of relapse.  His major problem was back issues, with the leukemia causing a collapse of several vertebrae, for which he had kyphoplasty surgeries (very rare in a 20 year old).


So, now to the current day.  I was back in the states for 10 days on my summer holiday in early September this year, and my brother called me on the phone (he was now back at college 2 hours away) and told me his back was hurting, and his hip, and it felt the same as two years ago.  It totally freaked me out, and I was in panic mode for days.  Finally, the doc (his new oncologist, 2 hours away at school) insisted his blood counts were staying the same, and that there were other explanations for the pain.  We all relaxed (but just a little).  Well, it kept bothering him on and off, nobody wanted to give him a biopsy as his blood counts weren't changing, and finally at the end of October he did get a biopsy and it was positive - the leukemia had relapsed.  My family and I (and my brother of course) are devastated, and I'm mad as hell too.  His original oncologist kind of acted like it was all going to be fine before, giving him high numbers for chance of the leukemia being gone, but I feel in my mind (and have always felt) like that was overly optimistic - just due to his age at diagnosis, I feel like he should have been treated as a higher-risk patient.  So, now, he's quit school again after only half a semester back, he's back with my parents, and at the teaching hospital where they can actually do bone marrow transplants, with a new hem/onc who can do them.  Now trying to get into remission, and on the COG AALL01P2 protocol for relapsed ALL.  It has 3 rounds of 35 days of chemo, which if it's on schedule would have that finishing in mid February.  And a bone marrow/ stem cell transplant after that.  I'm only a 3/6 match, and we don't have any other siblings, so we'll be looking for an unrelated donor.  I think his HLA type might be a little weird, so I'm not sure how long it's going to take to try to find a donor, and I guess there are always other options like cord blood, but we'd probably have to take him to a different transplant center if he needed a more than 9/10 mismatch or a cord blood transplant, as they don't really do those where he is.


So, this is all ridiculously stressful, and so unfair to him, and if I were in the states I'd be going to Gilda's club for support, but where I am I have none.  So I hope to get some from these boards.  I've been reading a lot, and you guys really help each other out.  Oh, and my other stress is that my partner of 9 years and I got married last Christmas (thank god my brother was okay and there), but my husband isn't American.  So, we were planning on applying for his greencard now, and heading back to the states in a year, but that's all thrown up in the air since if I'm not here, we can't apply through the US embassy here.  But if we both quit our jobs here now, and head back to the states, we could be losing out on end-of-contract bonuses which we were counting on to be savings to get us started in the US next year, and if he comes to the states now, he won't be able to work and we'll have a long process to apply for his greencard there.  But I also am so afraid of going back myself in 2 months or so to help support my brother and family (they will definitely need support during the transplant process) without having my husband there, and potentially being away from my husband for 8 months or so...


Anyway, i assume nobody has experience with this last problem of mine, but I just wanted to tell my story and introduce myself, and I'm sure I'll be posting more as I have more questions about things for people who have been through this experience.


sara

Ann   61 posts since
Apr 3, 2009
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1. Nov 14, 2009 12:13 AM in response to: sach
Re: Any relapsed ALL young adults getting BMT? My (& my brother's) story... new poster

Hi Sara,

 

I was 32 when I was diagnosed with ALL.  My local oncologist suggested I go to a cancer center that specifically treated my leukemia rather than remain local.  My husband and I travelled to MD Anderson which is roughly 5 hours away from our home.  I was able to get into remission with the first round of chemo and was advised that I would have to have a transplant since the subtype of ALL I had is typically very aggressive.  My brother is a 2/10 HLA match and at the time, there were no other viable matches on any of the registries, so I had an expanded cord blood transplant.  That was in 2007.  13 months after that transplant, the ALL returned.  I was once again able to get into remission with the first round of chemo and fast tracked to a second transplant.  I was very fortunate in that there was a 9/10 HLA match on the registry willing to donate to me.  I'm now almost 15 months out from the second transplant and doing well.  If you'd like more detail about my treatment, I have a blog: www.anngregory.blogspot.com.  The first transplant happened in May 2007.  The second was in September 2008.

 

There are a lot of great people on here who have been tremendously supportive of me and I know they'll do the same for you.  Feel free to email me if you have any questions, etc.  Another great site that caters to young adults with cancer is www.planetcancer.org.

 

Best wishes,

Ann

Sue   81 posts since
Apr 4, 2009
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2. Nov 14, 2009 11:55 AM in response to: sach
Re: Any relapsed ALL young adults getting BMT? My (& my brother's) story... new poster

My son was also 20 at the time of his dx, his was T cell ALL/LBL he started on a very aggressive protocol and was also doing well, and decided to return to college.  He was eight months past dx, unfortunately he only went to two days of classes, when he woke up one morning with his face numb.  Right away I suspected relapse, unfortunately he had relapsed in the CNS (brain).  Right away he was started on the hyper-CVAD protocol and we started preparing for his transplant.  Although we had great cancer centers close by we opted to, like the poster prior to me, to go to MD Anderson as they are renowned for their treatments with leukemia's and lymphomas.  It was 1,800 miles from home but we knew that they had successfully treated this type of relapse in the past.  We were happy to hear upon our arrival there that he was in remission and six weeks later at the end of November of 2006 he received an allo transplant with his brother being a 10/10 match.  My son will be celebrating three years remission this month.  My advice is to be willing to go anywhere.  We knew that being that far from home would not be easy, but as I told my son back then, nothing about this is easy and we won't make a choice on a transplant center just because it's the easier choice.  Of course we do not regret our decision.  I wish your brother luck in finding a donor and having a successful transplant.....I will pray that all works itself out.

 

God Speed,

Sue

HappyPrince   12 posts since
Nov 21, 2009
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5. Nov 21, 2009 10:38 PM in response to: sach
Re: Any relapsed ALL young adults getting BMT? My (& my brother's) story... new poster

hi Sara,

 

Read your story about your brother. I totally understand how you feel. My younger brother was diagnosed with T-LBL (similar to ALL) at the beginning of this year. Our whole family is devastated by this event but throughout the entire battle, it makes our family and each one of us grow stronger and we deeply understand how important and how close we are to each other.

It's stressful and unfair, but after reading all the blogs and came across all different sectors of people who have similar disease, it's really how life is. We just have to accept and stay strong.

My brother started with coughing. He did an xray and found a large mediastinal mass. After the diagnosis, he started on the hyper CVAD chemo regimen followed by radiotherapy. His response was excellent and achieved complete remission after his 2nd round of chemo. When everyone was relieved and thankful, he relapsed right before he was about to proceed to auto transplant, ie around 8 mths later. All of us were shocked, depressed. He started right away on ICE for one round and proceeded to auto transplant. Once again we are so thankful as his auto transplant went on very well, with tolerable side effects. My brother is a very intelligent, mature young man and has always been very proactive. It was the happiest moment to have him finally back home. We were all very nervous and careful, hoping for a speed recovery. Just about a week after he got home, he developed headaches, facial pain/ numbness. We were so scared, did an MRI and things were normal except with some inflammed soft tissues in his sinus. We suspected it might be siniusitis but vomiting and pain continued and we had to check him back to hospital. That week was terrible. He hadn't felt that bad throughout the entire treatment and had never vomited except this time with the pain. He couldn't eat for a week, he was on antibiotics/ antifungal IV but the pain didn't quite improve. He was in so much pain (nerve pain) that he has to be on morphine. It hurts so much to see him in pain, not to mention parents seeing their son has to suffer. One morning his left eye dropped and a lumber punture was done right away followed by pet scan. All things are normal. We were so scared and worried. The period waiting for the results from the scan was just difficult. He was on viral medications as the doctor suspected either a viral infection or possibility of lymphoma infiltration in his nerve, that is too minute to be detected by pet scan. Of course we are hoping for the best. However, when his right eye started to droop, we highly suspected it's never infiltration and he was on another chemo regimen. Right now, the hospital is searching for potential donors to proceed an allogenic transplant. But considering the proximity of his relapse and his past treatments/ transplant, it's difficult to proceed to allogenic transplant as we have to see his responses and body condition.

 

Anyways, I understand it's difficult. Since this is a rare and aggressive disease, it will be great if anyone can share similar experiences with me.

 

Best, J'aime

HappyPrince   12 posts since
Nov 21, 2009
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6. Jan 10, 2010 5:17 AM in response to: sach
Re: Any relapsed ALL young adults getting BMT? My (& my brother's) story... new poster

sach, i'm also an elder sister to a brother diagnosed with T LBL (similar to ALL), so I share your feelings, worries and concern. Feel free to write to me if u ve any questions or you want to talk.

WillBarrett   2 posts since
Jan 10, 2010

Your brother's case sounds similar to mine.  I was diagnosed with T-cell ALL (really T-cell lymphblastic lymphoma with blood involvement) eight years ago at the age of 30 and had CNS involvement at diagnosis.  I relapsed in the CNS and the bone marrow during maintainence chemotherapy.  Relapse presented with facial numbness on the left side, drooping eyelid and inability to smile/blow out my cheeks.  Went for a few weeks on the suspicion that a virus might be the culprit.  Unfortunaely, LP was postive and MRI showed a large lesion that stumped the radiologists at MD Anderson who could not agree upon the interpretation of the scans (ie. was the lesion a second cancer or ALL?).  Was given the standard line: you cannot have a transplant until this is resolved and was told by my extremely competent, but blunt leukemia doctor that he did not think this was going away.  Well, it did resolve with intensive chemo and I went to transplant with my brother as a 8 of 10 match.  I am cancer free, immunesuppression free and oncologist free today.

 

Hope this helps.  If I can answer other questions let me know.  This can and has been beaten.

HappyPrince   12 posts since
Nov 21, 2009

hi Will,

 

great and encouraging to hear from you. This is a rare disease and nerve infiltration is relatively rare too. Usually, CNS involvment has a poor prognosis and you are very lucky. I also hope my brother will be one of the lucky ones too.

I'm wondering if your eye has recovered after the transplant and how long does it take. My brother's left eye ptosis has improved quite a lot so far. Another problem he has is the affected 3rd and 6th nerve, who causes his lazy eye. Despite his eyeball is still off the center, his movement has also improved alot. A doctors suggested that damage to the never is rather difficult to recover fully and he said ressection is an option for the future.

Meanwhile, my brother has finished his mini transplant and today is his Day 26. a bit of low grade fever and hopefully he can return home soon. I read from your message that you were treated at the MD Anderson. I know this is the top and great hospital. However my brother is unable to fly over as he's too weak.

 

All the best and luck:) happy

WillBarrett   2 posts since
Jan 10, 2010

My eye did recover though it did not do so completely until I had radiation prior to my transplant.  My wife sometimes notices a slight drop when I am very tired, but someone who does not know would not notice.  My vision is slightly worse in the left eye (I had a 6th nerve palsy which caused double vision when I was first diagnosed and the 7th nerve palsy at relapse), but that just means a thicker lens/more powerful contact on the left.  Yes, I am beyond lucky and I hope and pray that you brother will soon share my good fortune.

HappyPrince   12 posts since
Nov 21, 2009

hi Will,

thanks for sharing. We are all so scared and worried right now. Today is my brother DAY 30 from his mini transplant. When everything is going well and his left eye has improved significantly, he started to develop this pressure pain/ feeling around/ behind his left eye. His tears continued. We went to see check with the eye specialist last Tues and everything is ok. Then he said he had slight feelings on his left face and then his right face and the feeling reminded him of his last relapse which really scared everybody. It's just heartbreaking to see him to experience another disappointment and to go through all the ups and downs again. Yesterday when he woke up, his eye hurt and his left eye swell and drooped abit. We went straight back to the hospital, consulted the doctor and did a MRI. Again the MRI is normal, with no signs of lymphoma involvement except his time with sinus infection (fluid collection and mucus thickening in his sinus). Of course, we are all hoping for the best that it's just sinus infection that causes the pain. But the doctors said they can't rule out the possibility of never infiltration and if the outcome is positive, there's really nothing much we can do. We can only observe closely his clinical behaviors and symptoms. Right now he was on antibiotics, steriod and the doctor lowered his immunosuppressed drugs to try to further enhance "graft versus tumor" effect. The doc also said this effect is no guarantee.

We are all so devastated and worried at the moment. From your last email, you mentioned u treated at MD anderson. Do you mind putting me in contact with your doctor so that I can seek some expert's opinion?

 

Thanks

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