Did you try anti-cancer nutrition? Juicing? Herbal supplements? Artemisinin? Exercise? Meditation? Yoga? Faith?
What factors do you believe contributed beyond traditional medicine?
Thanks for your responses!
I have only been in remission about 5 months....but i think the thing that helped me the most was just thinking about the future. I fantasize a lot about what my life will be like in 2 or 3 years, finishing school maybe having my dream job, etc. I always recommend staying and thinking positive, but sometimes its just so hard to do, so if you keep these "fantasies" in your head they serve as constant positive reminders to pull you through.
anyway, just what i did, hope it helps someone
i gave a speech at a Relay for Life a month ago and these were the other things i talked about...
1) This is your job now, and you will never get fired. Always think about how you will be cured and how you are working everyday toward that cure, nothing else should ever enter your mind.
2) Try not to ask why, you will find no answer, this answer will no doubt come later in life, when something amazing happens or you have done or achieved something so great, and you look back and say to yourself “”wow if I had never had cancer then…” (fill in the blank)
3) Love, love, love, and love some more, and focus on that love, as it will inspire you everyday.
4) Become interested in your treatment, immerse yourself in the protocol, make it your new hobby, examining and thinking about the medicine and research involved is much better than dwelling on the disease itself. Ask questions, just for fun, entertain yourself with every fact, every procedure, and share that information, teach others, trust me it will feel good.
5) Let those that love you surround you, let them lean on you as you lean on them. The love you have for family and friends and the love they have for you will shine through, let them care for you, let them baby you, let them tell you how courageous are, how you inspire them, you may not believe them but listen to them they speak the truth! But most of all, especially in the beginning, let them know its ok, everything is ok.
6) Give, give back at any opportunity you have, whether it’s a small congratulatory note or birthday card, or a message to a stranger on a cancer discussion board, or a simple warm smile to a fellow patient who looks scared. Giving back what you have learned will help you so much more than you think, it will give you peace, and help you grow.
7) Make your five-year plan! I would like to say “plan ahead” but we all know you cannot begin to do that until you are completely done with your treatment, because until that point your doctors manage your date book, and with good reason of course! But design you five year plan, fantasize and dream CONSTANTLY about how great your life will be when you are five years cancer free, your family, your job, how amazing it will all be and how it will all be cancer free, never ever let these images slip out of your mind, keep them close and let them guide you through the next five years.
8) Celebrate; celebrate everything, every small detail, nothing positive is ever too small to be a milestone in your treatment! If your blood work comes back better than it was suppose to, celebrate, if you feel good enough one day to walk down the street, celebrate, if you wake up one morning and you have stubble growing on your shiny head, celebrate. If your tumor shrinks a tiny bit, or your bone marrow comes back less one mutation, throw a HUGE party!
9) Hair grows back, it does, you may not want to cut it for two years afterward, but nothing feels better than when you haven’t seen someone in a few days and they say oh my your hair is getting so thick! You mutter something like “oh, yeah, its kinda messy” or “yeah I guess” but inside you are so thrilled they noticed. I won’t pretend it isn’t hard to look at your shiny head, and it certainly messes with your internal temperature, but indulge in not having hair, buy Coach, Hermes, and Gucci scarves, and cute hats, and beautiful earrings, buy new make-up and different wigs and have fun. Hair grows back, maybe not as fast as we like, but it will grow back. Besides that means you can sleep for an extra hour in the morning because you don’t have to style your hair!
10) Lastly, you can, you know you can, and you know that you can, because you no longer know what the word can’t even means.
I have been in remission for 16 months from a rare form of t-cell lymphoma called AILT. My health is not the same as before but is steadily improving. I have to say faith is what pulled me through the darkest days. I am a Christian so I prayed a lot and later I found out family and friends all around the country were praying continously for my recovery. I know I would not be here today if it were not for their concern and intercession on my behalf. God let me stay here with my family longer and I am trying to do His will and make the most of the rest of my life, however long that may be. I am far from perfect but I try to be faithful.
Diet was not much of an issue since I couldn't eat very much for many months. I try to eat healthier now, a variety of fruit, vegetables, whole grains and lean meats, less sugar, salt and fat. But every once in awhile I see no harm in indulging in chocolate or a hot fudge sundae. Or homemade fried tacos and an ice cream cake from Dairy Queen for Mother's Day! There was a long time when I could not have eaten any of that so now it is very enjoyable on a special occassion. I also try to walk regularly and I do house work and yard word (including a big garden) to stay active. When I was sick someone tried to sell me some supplements that contained the elements of dark mushrooms which was supposed to improve the immune system but in the end I thought it was a scam and lost that "friend". I take a multivitamin and that's it for the supplements.
What is artemisinin?
Not a bloody thing. So far as I can tell, this is completely beyond my control.
Faith and attitude helped me cope, but they don't do a damned thing beyond influenceing one's outlook.
Luck. Pure luck. And I don't consider myself a survivor, I have miles to go yet before I can use that term. I'm just a Leukemia veteran, from two wars....
Wearing my seat belt, looking both ways before I cross, not going out in bad neighborhoods after dark . . .
Excuse the sarcasm, but that was the first thing that came to mind when I read the title. Seriously, I'm with Tex and Pam; I don't think there is a whole lot you can do, other than follow your doctor's instruction while you are actively treating. Faith is an important part of my life, but I don't think that even if God were one to intervene on an individual basis, that he would do so based on my level of faith.
Paul
I agree there really isn't much that you can do now. Maybe I should have had a better diet 30 years ago and I wouldn't have high blood pressure or high cholesterol; I was diagnosed with both of those 5 years before I was diagnosed with cancer. I keep thinking if I were to relapse (God forbid) and couldn't eat much again would I want to remember that healthy raw carrot or that wonderful hot fudge sundae with whipped cream?
I don't think it was my level of faith that helped me but I believe it was the love and prayers of my family that God answered. The why me and not someone else I continue to struggle with.
Candy52 wrote:
I don't think it was my level of faith that helped me but I believe it was the love and prayers of my family that God answered. The why me and not someone else I continue to struggle with.
As a man who's studied and thought about this a lot, I'll share my thoughts. If God answered your family's prayers, why didn't God answer the prayers of the famiily's who died from this crap?
As for why you and not someone else, well sh*t happens. You got lucky or whatever. You were not chosen for the disease. And, finally, why not you? That was the immediate answer that came to me the one time I dared to ask the question.
As for level of faith if you'll look through the Scriptures you'll find that healing miracles tended to happen to unbelievers or those with weak fiath. I've never seen anything resembling a true healing miracle happen as a reward for someone's faith.
Bought something big to put me into debt so I had to work for years to pay off that debt!! ![]()
Seriously, I've been lucky, haven't (yet) been in the life & death struggle as with some of the other types of cancer (cll/sll). But I have friends who have.
My motto has always been 'Having a positive attitude may not make me live longer, but it'll make the life I live better'. Am I alive today because I think positive?? NO, I'm alive because I'm one of the luckier ones with a slower progressing form of leukemia and have thus far responded well to the treatment. No because of anything I've done personally.
But I'm a healther person because I cut out junk food (mostly--still give in from time to time), I exercise more, I keep my cholesterol in check, and I have learned for the most part to 'don't sweat the small stuff', cutting my stress levels down as much as possible. (But as we know, life happens and with it sometimes come stress we can't avoid!)
Someone else has a motto here (sorry I cannot rembemer who) 'Attitude is the mind's paintbrush, it can color any situation'.
I love that motto. It is so true. I know that how we treat others can affect how they treat us. We can control how we deal with whatever life brings our way. Every single day we must make decisions about our how to react to the rude person in line at the grocery store, those we work with, those we call friends, members of our family, bad drivers on the roadway, people we know well, and those we know by sight.
For example, how we treat people at the cancer clinic from those who greet us as we walk in the door, to those who draw our blood, to those who administer our 'poison', CAN affect how they treat us. Personally, I want the person with the big needle coming at me to be smiling and happy to see me. Yep, don't want some person who thinks I'm rude sticking me!! ![]()
My son is one of 8 who was dx'd with T cell LBL back at the end of 2005 and whom we have formed friendships with. He is the only one that did survive. We don't know why, other than pure luck. Attitude helped some, the moment he was dx'd he put up his hands and said "it's in Gods hands now". He never complained and he never asked "why me", he had a hell of a sense of humor through it all. He ate whatever he wanted, because when he felt like eating we would want to fatten him up....There is no rhyme or reason as to who survives and why. We still don't say that around our house "survivor" because we feel there are years to go before we can. Today he takes many supplements, one of which is 2000 iu of vitamin D because there's been a lot of medical reports claiming it is a good cancer preventive, among several other things. I have said it many times "it's by the Grace of God, goes thee".
I am not questioning as to why I got cancer I am questioning as to why I have gotten the second chance. I am no better or worse than anyone else. A year ago we buried the best man from our wedding who had died of 3 different kinds of cancer but didn't even know he had any until 2 weeks before his death. The doctors couldn't do anything for him and sent him home with a morphine drip to die. He had been a Viet Nam veteran who had been badly shot up in the legs resulting in amputation. He had been through so much early in his life it seemed he should have been allowed to live longer and without so much pain.
I feel an obligation or responsibility to make the most of my remission but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.
This is an interesting topic, because I want to believe there are things I can control or do to help contribute to my son's survival. He was just 5 when dx'd with Nodular Lymphocyte Predominant Hodgkin's and then 7 months later was dx'd with type-1 diabetes. I spend a LOT of times managing the controllable factors of his diabetes...carb-counting, insulin delivery, fish-oil supplements, calcium and vitamin-D, other amino acids that are supposed to help protect from kidney disease, testing his blood sugar as many as 10 times per day. But when it comes to cancer...I am at a loss. I can't think of much, other than a healthy diet, that is controllable. Either it will come back, or it won't. It makes me feel sick to even acknowledge that fact.
As far as his survival so far...I do think I can point to how I may have contributed to it. I PUSHED for answers even after a Pediatrician told me numerous times that he was "fine" and "nothing" was wrong with him. Well...I wanted answers, and I believe God gave mothers (and some Dads) an ability to sense when their child is in danger, and I had this sense. Fortunately, he was dx'd in a early stage, which makes a HUGE difference in his prognosis.
We know other kids from our clinic who are struggling with their disease. I know their parents would do anything to change what is happening...and other than praying, there is nothing they can do. We feel the parents version of survivor's guilt often when we speak to these parents. Why is our child playing soccer and planning a great summer, while their child is struggling to survive? I have no answers.
cllgal wrote:
Bought something big to put me into debt so I had to work for years to pay off that debt!! ![]()
That got me chuckling. But it's probably as smart a thing as one could do. ![]()
Candy52 wrote:
I am not questioning as to why I got cancer I am questioning as to why I have gotten the second chance. I am no better or worse than anyone else...I feel an obligation or responsibility to make the most of my remission but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.
It's not reward for being good or payback for being bad. It simply is what it is. Trying to make sense of it, well, I don't know how you do that without buying into some kind of fiction, whether it be religious, food choices or only traveling in helicopters.
Perhaps what you're really saying in the second part of the quote is you feel a responsibilty to makes changes in your life so it has more meaning? Most of us confront something like that when we go through this process. The trick is keeping that focus alive. As for what to do, it might not be one big things but several little things which might even change from time to time.
If I had died, the only thing I would have wished from or for those who lived was that they live well and with meaning. That make sense?
Blessings
I am speaking for my mom here!
Faith and Prayers
HOPE
LOVE
Her Husband and childrens attitude
Friends and Family Support
Determination
Goals
The Future (her grandchildren)
Perserverance
Her Preacher
Trust and Confidence in her Doctor's