Hello Everyone,
How I wish I had found this website 8 months ago when I was first diagnosed with Hodgkin Lymphoma stage IV. I've completed my treatment and is two months into remission. I am finally dealing with the diagnosis, and what I've been through. I feel like I'm just coming out of a fog and I not sure how to deal with it all. My husband and family are very religion and feel that praises to God for my remission is all that is needed, but somehow that is not helping me deal with the anxiety and uncertainty I'm feeling. Therefore, I was so appreciative when I found this site and others like me living with this disease. From reading some of the post, so many of the questions I've had over the last 8 months appear to be so common for everyone on this site. It does me heart good to connect with others that understand first hand what I've been through and continue to deal with.
I endured 6 cycles of ABVD and was initially scheduled for 6 weeks of radiation. At the completion of my chemo the decision was made that radiation was not needed because the chemo had put me into remission, has anyone had to make this decision? My radiologist told me that the damage that would be done to my lungs outweighed the benefits I would received from the radiation because at this point it was being done simply as preventive maintenance. We made the decision not to do radiation, but I'm not sure if I've placed myself in jeopardy by not doing chemo and radiation.
I'm doing well now, feeling more normal each day and greatful for the support of my family and friends, but I feel so anxious and not sure how to deal with it all.
Hi Chris,
I think what you are feeling is a very real and understandable. I too have many thoughts and feelings of uncertainty about my future and if this disease really is gone from my body. I was diagnosed at stage IIB with a large mediastinal mass. I did 4 cycles of ABVD and then 4 weeks of radiation. I too had the choice to do radiation, but in my case it was highgly recommended because of the large mediastinal mass. It was a tough decision to make, but I went with the odds and now have a 95% certainty of cure.
Those are pretty good odds and the rational thing to do should probably not to worry about the 5% chance that it may come back--it is a very unlikely that it will! However, when I think about statistics and odds I think back to when I was diagnosed and I question how in the world did I get this disease?! It was such a shock to get it--I have always been healthy and active in sports, and I am also pretty young--I was diagnosed at 18. But, I was also able to make a full recovery with not too many side effects. I turned 19 in July and have now been in remission for about 3 months. Sometimes I think I underestimate the capabilities of my body and it is pretty amazing that I was able to fight off this deadly disease.
As for dealing with these fears and emotions, I find stuff like this website very helpful! It's comforting to know that other people are going through the same thing as you are. I also think you just have to get on with normal life. I definitely know what you mean about coming out of a fog--it's a strange feeling to not have to keep going back to the doctor and not seeing all the people who took care of you as much. But, life goes on and I think the best thing is just to try to return to doing the things you were doing before. Pretty soon I think all of this will be just a distant memory and we won't even think about it. Right now, I am actually in the process of coming back to college where I had to leave in the middle of my freshman year last spring. It's a strange feeling to be getting back to normal, but it's also a blessing. I'm happy that I can get on with my life!
Hope it helps a little to know that I can relate!
Best,
Victoria
Hello Victoria,
Thank you for the kind words of encouragement, and yes I have found this site very helpful with dealing with my emotions and the numerous questions I've have I am trying hard to focus on the blessings of remission and not on the what if, but some days are harder than others. Glad to hear that you are 3 months into your remission and have regained some resemblance of your life. I feel confident that I will too in time, I just have to take it one day at a time. I plan on returning to work in January and I'm sure once I get back to the daily grim, my focus will change.
Chris![]()
Hi,
I'm also stage 4. and i still feel like i want to understand more about what has happened to me and want to know how to keep from it happening again. partly because the doctors weren't listening to me and didn't diagnose me for so long. i feel i need to know what to look for, etc. i just found out i was in remission this past wednesday. i'm excited ... i was/am elated ... but i'm still a bit worried because i want someone to explain this in depth to me. they are watching my thyroid. i'm not sure what that means. was it damaged during treament? i believe the chances for recurrence are 35 percent. what is the chance we will get another cancer or other problems due to the chemo? i can't help it, i want to know. i'm tired of people telling me just to live my life. i am doing that and planning to do that but i want to know the odds. i don't see anything unusual about that do you? i get so frustrated sometimes.
FYE-
I think your worries are perfectly normal and justified. I don't know that I will ever stop worrying, on some level, about this horrible disease coming back or what I might face in the future as a result of chemo damage. I don't know that you will find detailed answers to your questions though, because I think there are a lot of things the docs still do not know. Plus, you have to remember that statisitics are just averages and do not speak to individuals, so there is always some mystery about what may or may not happen to each of us. I am hoping that as time passes, it gets easier to "tuck these worries away" and they willl not occupy so much of our mental energy. I think of people who live on or near fault lines in California. If they let themselves think constantly about what could happen if they get an Earthquake they would not be able to function. They have to engage in some level of denial to go about their lives. I believe we have to do the same. On the other hand, we should not be in total denial, so it is good to be informed so that you can pay attention to your body and be alerted when something does not seem right. I have met a number of people in a cancer support group I attend who had no symptoms they could identify prior to their diagnosis. I think that is one of the really scary things about cancer-- it is a disease that really sneaks up on us. I hope you find some peace of mind with all of this.
Thanks! Just having a brief freak out. I will be fine. Sometimes just need to vent and don't want my family to worry.
Fye,
Denise is right, having lived in California for 35 years, I would get that question all the time from people of other states, how did you deal with the earthquake? I am using my perfected sense of denial to deal with my remission now and I am finding as I get further and further away from my treatment completion date, it has gotten easier. The worry never goes away, since I've perfected that too, but I don't think about it as much and you will find in time that your diagnosis is less and less of your life and vocabulary. Its feel good though to have somewhere to vent and people to listen who knows what you've been through and will not pass judgement.
I think what you are feeling is completely normal. I have been in remission for 6 weeks and feel exactly the same... Aren't I supposed to be happy that chemo is over? Yes, I am but I also had all these feelings arise that I had suppressed while going through chemo. during chemo you have to be strong and keep your eyes on the end. When the end comes, the flood gates open and all the emotions of what you just went through come to the surface. No one can understand this unless they have walked in your shoes. I have learned that we will have good days and bad days and the more time passes the good will outnumber the bad. Just hand in there and remember that you are entitled to feel however you feel and that there is a huge emotional component to being a cancer survivor.
Hi Chris M
Yes, being in remission is a scary place, especially at the beginning. No-one warned me about the feelings that would absolutely engulf me. Like you I don't think I'd even started to come to grips with it until after treatment finished, during treatment I think I was just on auto pilot. After treatment I felt lost, abandoned, bewildered, confused, alone, terrified... I felt like I had started off as one big perfect jigsaw puzzle then someone came along and dismantled it, replaced it with three new puzzles, took a third of each puzzle away and expected me to piece the remaining pieces back together to form a new puzzle, very difficult. Am still getting my head around it all now - did I really do all that? How do I know it's gone? How do the Docs know it's gone? I guess there just aren't concrete answers to these questions, I do know that gradually you do get your head around it, it's been suggested to me by a few people in the business to perhaps not try and work so hard on getting back to where I was before all of this, but because things have changed and I can't "unknow" everything I now know, that it's more like finding a "new normal" rather than trying to get back to the "old normal" which has changed so much
During my chemo (6 cycles/12 treatments ABVD for stage IIB Bulky) they said that radiation was something to be considered at the end of chemo, depending on what the situation looked like then and how well I had responded etc. At the end I had a good PET scan and they said they would not recommend radiation for me as for me it would increase other risks etc and unless there was evidence of needing it then why would they, so I didn't have any. I'm still classified as in remission and I finished chemo about 22 months ago. The stats for HL are overall pretty good for treatment working from what I've been told, but also I, like everyone I think, know that some people do relapse, it's just one of those things that somehow at some stage we kind of come to terms with as survivors, and try and move on to live the best lives we can and if something comes up then it's a matter of dealing with it if it happens rather than living each day expecting it maybe
I hope this helps Chris, but know that you're definitely not alone in your feelings...
Kiwi
Kiwi-
I am struggling with many of the feelings you spoke of. I really like the idea of establishing a "new normal." It has been two months since I finished chemo and I still feel like a deer caught in headlights. I can't wait until most of the worry goes away.Denise
To all of you who have shared this common fear,
We all share the same emotions, regardless of what type of lymphoma we have had. First, congratulations that all of you have made it to remission! Yes, your experience is surreal . . . I understand that. It has taken nearly a year to believe I am cancer free but now, finally, I have adjusted to and accepted my cancer and where I couldn't say I had cancer, now I can.
In my search for answers, I have found all these websites helpful. They gave me a perspective that I am normal in all this aftermath of confusion and loss. I am a part of an internet discussion group that shares just that, the onslaught of unanticipated emotion and how to sort it all out. I found that site on this address:
www.cancercare.org/groups/instructions.php#select#select.
When the hole was too deep and I felt isolated and alone I sought therapy. This has helped me tremendously and has validated every emotion, every fear.
I hope all of you will find solace in the following sites. Be reassured, you are not alone in this time of uncertainty; if you seek support, if you seek education on your cancer experience, your life will upright one day.
My fondest support for all of you!
Cyndi
http://www.dcprovidersonline.com/bmtin/f6815e44261d53d8bdfedab7cd37fb3e//player.html
www.lymphoma.org/site/pp.asp?c=chKOI6PEImE&b=1574367
(Scroll all the way down to Caregiver and Patient Support)
http://www.cancercare.org/get_help/tew_archive/archive_detail.php?category_id=2
(Cancer Cares own webcast services)
Just listening to these was my first step towards emotion validation and recovery. My therapist is the tool box and road map to final recovery.
Some more:
http://www.massey.vcu.edu/patients/?pid=1935
http://www.cancersupportivecare.com/Survivor/index.html
http://www.canceradvocacy.org/
I think those are pretty much all the sites I have found extremely helpful. There are some free booklets and worksheets available. I don't know, I think the more educated, the more active I am with my cancer and treatment and future, I more in control I feel.
Thanks Rellaann- I will check into these links. I have entertained the idea of entering supportive therapy as well, but I was terminated from my job during my treatment (FMLA expired) and I do not have the $$ to engage in treatment. I need to look into some low coast options. I do attend a peer support group at Gilda's club in my area and I have found it very valuable. Denise