My father, age 85, was diagnosed in early October, 2009 with AML M0. He has been through his first round of chemo (Vidaza) about 3 weeks ago and is scheduled for his second round next week. This morning, he spiked a fever of 102 and was admitted in the hospital due to a low grade pneunomia which they discovered through a chest xray. So far, he has received about 3 transfusions prior to this pneunomia episode due to problems with blood counts and platelets and is continuining to receive blood now at the hospital since he will be a patient there for a few days. His doctor is pleased with his white blood counts indicating that the Vidaza treatment is causing things to move in the right directon. Of course, we hope this is the case and that his assessment is correct. I'm wondering if they should postpone his second round of chemo due to his illness. I think they want to move forward with it which concerns me. I will speak to the doctor about this tomorrow.
My reason for writing is to touch base with other elderly patients (or family members) who are battling AML and welcome hearing about their experiences, bouts with infections, treatments, etc. We love our Dad so very much and are all going through a tough time. Thank you for your support.
I am so very sorry to hear about your dad. You have come to the right place for support and information. Unfortunately, there are quite a few of us who have been in your shoes. My dad was 65 when he was diagnosed with AML M4. I remember the shock and disbelief I felt at that time. It takes a while before the news sinks in. I don't know that much about Vidaza but I'm glad the doctors think it is working in your dad's case. I'm sure some others will chime in with their experiences with Vidaza. My dad got into remission with chemo, but he was younger than your dad so maybe the protocal was different. Again, I am so sorry for what you are going through. Keep us posted as things develop. All my best, Leslie
I'm sorry to hear about your father's diagnosis. I hope he continues to tolerate the Vidaza well and respond to it.
My 81 YO mother was diagnosed with AML M2 at the end of June. She is also on Vidaza, just completing round 5 earlier this month. In her first month she was hospitalized with a neutropenic fever, no pneumonia, and she hasn't been hospitalized since. Her doctors think she is responding to the Vidaza, although not as strongly as they hoped. She has no other significant health issues (high blood pressure, diabetes, etc) other than the AML. She is a 5 yr colon cancer survivor, and we're speculating that the treatment she received at that time may have triggered the AML.
She hasn't had any significant side effects other than injection site irriration. She's receiving transfusions every 2-3 weeks, which has been consistent since her diagnosis.
There are a few of us out here on the boards with elderly parents with AML on Vidaza. Any questions, please ask - we're here to support you however you need it.
Tricia
I am so happy to hear that your mother did so well with the treatment she received. Thank you so much for your kind reply and encouragement.
It is encouraging to hear that your mother's treatment with Vidaza has been helpful. I pray that she will continue to respond well. It is such a difficult time for us since he has only been diagnosed a few weeks ago. He was just discharged today from the hospital today and began his second round of chemo today. He is tired of all the "back and forth" to the hospital, because he has had a few transfusions as well over the past 5 weeks. How are your mother's spirits about this whole illness?
My mom's spirits are remarkably good. She's always been very pragmatic, and views the leukemia as just the next thing she has to deal with. She can still go about her normal routine, visit with the neighbors, run her errands, so she's happy. Her only modification is that she's going to the stores when they will likely be less crowded and have fewer children so she won't be exposed to as many germs. She usually visits with the grandkids every weekend, and we've continued doing that every weekend that they've been healthy. My older son is 14, so he has been great about helping out grandma with the things she wants to do around the house.
It's kind of funny, but my husband and I have been joking that the AML gives her something to do. She's rather social, so her weekly trips to the hospital are a time for her to catch up with all the nurses and give them advice on their lives. Up until this month, she went weekly to have blood drawn to check her counts and meet with the dr or nurse. If her counts were low, she would get blood at the same time. This month they made the decision to move to appts every 2 weeks, so she would be in daily the week of her shots, and then once 2 weeks after that for blood count check. They indicated that she knows how she feels, so if she starts to feel extremely tired or 'wobbly', her hemoglobin is low and she's due for blood. I have to watch her, because her AML was diagnosed as a part of regular bloodwork in advance of a colonoscopy. Her Hg was so low, that the nurses said they'd never seen a count that low on someone who was conscious (it was 4). She'll say she's fine, and then next thing you know we're in the ER.
She is holding her own, and she is glad that she did not choose the aggressive chemo. I can see that her highs aren't as high, and her lows are lower, but at 5 months after her diagnosis, that's still good. She was high risk in every category on the IPSS at her diagnosis (negative cyto, all cytopenias, high blast count), and her AML progressed through MDS, rather than de novo, so things were not looking good. She says that the statistics don't apply to her, and to a certain extent she's right. No matter what statistics you read, each person is an individual and will have their own outcome. I'm a strong believer in mind over matter, and her positive attitude has helped her get this far.
I hope your dad continues to respond to the Vidaza and the transfusions spread out. The drug seems pretty well tolerated, so if he can deal with the 'back and forth', it's worth the trip.
Tricia
It sounds like your mother is doing quite well with her treatment. This is very encourgaging to hear. This AML diagnosis came completely out of left field for us. My father has never been sick in his life and never had anything wrong with him. Always a clean bill of health. Then suddenly, during his routine physical, his blood work showed anemia. So to think that he might not be around for a long time considering how healthy he's been has been a sad shock for all of us.
It seems that your doctor has explained things well about risk factors, blood counts and provided treatment options from the onset. We had asked about the chromosome analysis when it became available but he didn't share too much other than it was consistent with a poor prognosis. We accompanied him in the beginning to his doctor appointments but now my dad drives himself since my sister and I work during the day. In my father's case, his doctor seems to have "taken charge" and does not share specifics. My dad ought to ask more questions and write things down which he does not do. To me, the doctor comes across as grim and not encouraging. He recommended the Vidaza treatment but didn't provide any other options to consider. I'm not saying that the Vidaza treatment is incorrect, it just seems that we weren't given options. He said induction chemo would have been too aggressive but didn't give my dad an option as it sounds like may have been done in your mother's case. My father seems to trust him though. I'm wondering if we shouldn't seek a second opinion but I know my dad will likely object because he is so overwhelmed with everything.
Lately, my husband, son and I have had the flu and have had to stay away from my dad for the past week which wasn't easy because my father was hospitalized for the first time because of a low grade pneunomia/infection. My sister was able to be there for him - actually with her being single and living close by, she moved into his house so he wouldn't be alone. I'm just scared of this whole thing. He is out of the hospital now and doing better. We're still hacking away here and hoping we will feel better so we can be together for Thanksgiving. We are so close to my father - he has been the most wonderful and devoted father throughout our lives. We just want to keep him around for as long as possible.
My dad (age 86 - just had a birthday) who was diagnosed in early October with AML M0 hasn't been doing well these days. He went through 3 series of Vidaza (the last one mid-December). It appeared that he was responding to the first two treatments however, his blood counts have been dropping since the third series. He has transfusions weekly (occasionally every two weeks). Today his hemoglobin dropped to 5.6 and his platelets were very low. He has been experiencing some rectal bleeding over the past few days. They admitted him to the hospital today so he can receive blood more regularly and platelets to get his counts up. They seem to be attributing the rectal bleeding to the low platelets. I'm just wondering why they are dropping so fast (he just received platelets Tuesday of last week. Anyway, it appears the Vidaza is not working and that they will be exploring other types of chemo. We are trying to get my father to consider a second opinion at a cutting edge hospital 35 miles away. Now, with his being in the hospital, this prolongs that (however, I made the appointment for later in the month anyway just in case). I would hope to try to get him in sooner. He is stubborn though. In any case, we're feeling scared. Any words of encouragement out there?
LJMR,
I'm sorry to hear your father is not doing well. I hadn't seen posts from you in a while, and I was hoping the news was better. The only specific experience I have is with my mother, who was also receiving Vidaza. Just when I think she's in a downward spiral, her stubbornness kicks in and she rebounds and her counts come up. That stubbornness that has driven us crazy previously is likely helping her at this point, so we're thankful for it. Never give up hope and enjoy the days when he is feeling the strongest. I'll keep you in my prayers.
Tricia
LJMR - I am sincerely sorry to hear of your father's current setbacks. My father's last hospitalization in October had a similar situation, where he received a transfusion but the counts continued low so he received another in a week's time. The doctor(s) had no explanation so they postponed Vidaza at the time and just sort of "waited out" until the blood counts stabilized. We were also worried because no one could say or predict anything and we couldn't tell our father what was going to happen next. From the sounds of it I think it probably could be the bleeding you mentioned that has kept his counts low. If that is addressed you may see his blood count stabilize with the next transfusion. I have you in my prayers. May God bless and stay with you and your family. sincerely, john f.
John - thank you for your words of encouragement and your prayers. My dad just received 5 units of blood and 2 platelets over the past couple of days in the hospital. I will keep you posted about developments with his chemo treatment which he is technically scheduled for next week. I have a call into his doctor today to discuss options. I really appreciate your support. God bless you and your family, too. - Linda
Actually, we thought things were looking up there for awhile, but they started downhill. Now I hope we can come up with a treatment that will work for him ASAP. I guess there are a number of chemo options out there and I hope that his doctor can figure out what would work best for him. My dad is such a peach of a father and I just can't bear the thought of losing him. I am so glad that your mother is doing so well. Her experience and determination (and your kindness) are an inspiration to us. Thank you very much. I'll keep you informed of developments. God bless you. - Linda
Linda,
Would you mind sharing whatever option you do end up choosing for your father? There's so few of us out here with elderly parents, and finding information on treatment options is tough. The aggressive consolidation chemo isn't an option for our parents, and Vidaza was the only other treatment that was offered to my mother. She doesn't regret not doing the aggressive chemo, but if/when the Vidaza stops working, she isn't going to want to give up without a fight.
She cracked me up last week. We're in Ohio and the snow and cold blew in right after Christmas (missed the postcard white Christmas by a day), and along with it came the field mice that are cold looking for warmth and food. My mom grew up on a farm so nothing phases her, but her neighbor has mice sneaking in somewhere and one found its way into her grandson's stocking by the fire where he'd stored his Christmas candy! My mom gave her the instructions of what to put around the tiny openings around her foundation on where they might be coming in, then went out to buy whatever it is she needs. As soon as the snow melts, she's heading over to mice-proof the neighbor's house because her neighbor Millie is just not feeling up to it!
Hang in there! I'm learning the caregivers have a uniquely tough road to walk. Your father is lucky to have such a loving and caring daughter.
Tricia
My understanding is that Vidaza will kill off some cells as it works its "magic." I'm not sure, but one day I'll remember that for sure. If so, your dad could be facing a delayed side effect.
What I do know is that PLT are very flaky and really fragile. They bounce around on their own in wide jumps. They also don't live long. This could explain why your dad's infusions of PLTs don't last long. It's common. They tend to need more frequent replacement than RBC.This doesn't explain the drop in HGB.
I hope it's a delayed thing with the Vidaza. If not, I hope they figure out the next thing soonest.
Could the center possibly do a consultation in your dad's hospital or home? Never hurts to ask.
Blessings
Hi I agree with Tex the platlets are so flakey mine have been up and down so ofter and they go up in big jumps. I am not sure about Vidaza as in uk we do not have it. but again stay positive and give your dad lots of support it certainly helps.
Andy