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marta   99 posts since
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120. Nov 15, 2009 3:20 PM in response to: secondtimeround
Re: Help to get through it

Lovey,

 

Adam had (has?) some GVH, but only in form skin's rash. It has started about day +24,+25. Now the rash has disapered,but he still takes prednisonum ( stereoid) 60mg per day.Adam doesn't take  a  magnesium  at  all. I don't know nothing about a  gut GVH from our experience, but from what I have read here, I think , that it could be GVH. I hope that the doc will give you the answer toomorow. I also hope that Burt will be fell better toomorow. I am with both of you!  Take care and keep   posted. hugs Marta.

KyGuy   1,271 posts since
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121. Nov 16, 2009 1:04 PM in response to: marta
Re: Help to get through it

Lovey,

 

The magnesium is probably the cause of the diarrhea.  It hit me hard for a few days and then my body seemed to adjust to it.  Although I wouldn't rule out GVH.  Being cold goes with the territory.   His blood is thin and that will make him cold.  I tended to dress in layers - although my tranplant was in May so it was summer when I went through the cold stage.

 

I hope he gets some relief soon.

 

Take care,

Kelly

Tex   3,897 posts since
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122. Nov 16, 2009 1:29 PM in response to: Lovey
Re: Help to get through it

Sounds exactly like I was at the start of muy gut GVH.  I'll bet that's just what it is.

 

Whatever it is, they'll get him fixed up in no time.  Let us know what ya'll find out.

 

Blessings

mamawarrior   946 posts since
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124. Nov 18, 2009 11:45 AM in response to: Lovey
Re: Help to get through it

In our experience, my son was having about 12 episodes of diarrhea a day, in small amounts. When i told them how many times he was going, and i actually measured it one time so i had an idea of volume, they took a specimen and did cultures to make sure it was not c-dif or a virus of some sort. My sons was due to the magnesium pills and they changed it IV daily and after about 5 days, it got better.

With that being said, my son also had gvh of the GI system  at various times.. That came on suddenly with explosive diarrhea, cramping etc. and was treated.

My sons GI tract seemed to change in the course of transplant and treatment. Even two years out he was still having more frequent bowel movements than normal and looser than normal.

I would think the docs would check cultures, make sure he is staying hydrated, make adjustments and if the concern is gvh, possibly scope him. 

Tex   3,897 posts since
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125. Nov 18, 2009 3:03 PM in response to: Lovey
Re: Help to get through it

I wish Burt could become convinced how important these trace elements are to our general health and recovery.  Easy for me to say. though.  Another weird thing about me is that the Mg never gave me the trots.

 

As I said the other day, what you've described sounds like the same sypmtoms I had with my gut GVH.  The only way to tell for sure is to do an endoscopy and get a biopsy.  The doc that did my endocscopy was experienced enough that he knew it was GVH from looking at it and they started me on treatment before they got the biopsy results.

 

There are a few meds they can used.  They started me on B&B bethomeclasone and budesonide over the weekend.  When I still wasn't eating on Monday, they gave me high dose Predinsone.  I was eating the house empty by afternoon.

 

Basically, you're going to need to get him to the doc and see what the doc thinks they need to do.  If you can get his belly in order, a lot of the issues should go away.  You might also check into the possibility of getting him his Mg by IV.  It doesn't mess with gut as bad.

 

Blessings

sach   79 posts since
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126. Nov 18, 2009 4:14 PM in response to: Lovey
Re: Help to get through it

I don't know anything about GVH, so I can't comment on that issue...

But, I have taken magnesium before, and it definitely seems to depend on what type you take.  So if magnesium is maybe the issue, maybe try having a look at what type it is? (magnesium oxide, chloride, gluconate, lactate, orotate, etc.)  I think if I remember correctly the oxide and chloride aren't so good for diarrhea, but the "-ate" ones are better absorbed by the body and cause less diarrhea?  Don't quote me on that - can't remember which ones are best exactly, but you can check online.  Generally, the "better" (gentler) ones are not found at your local drugstore - you have to get them at a good health food store, etc.  This is just coming from someone who's used it to try to prevent migraines, though... I probably have some links I could try to dig up one what's different about the different types...

KyGuy   1,271 posts since
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128. Nov 22, 2009 2:29 PM in response to: Lovey
Re: Help to get through it

Lovey,

 

I've heard that itchy skin and liver GVH can go hand and hand.  I've never heard it proven medically but when I had itching problems, I saw some articles that indication a relationship.  I was treated for liver GVH and at the same time was given atarax for my itching so between the 2, my itching problems cleared up at the same time my liver numbers got better.  Just thought I'd mention that since he's got the itchy rash on his ankles.

 

Take care,

Kelly

secondtimeround   354 posts since
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129. Nov 22, 2009 8:43 PM in response to: Lovey
Re: Help to get through it

Lovey,

I'm glad Burt is there so he can get the care he needs.  Hope he's feeling better today.

Cathy

willowbayfarm   406 posts since
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130. Nov 22, 2009 11:41 PM in response to: Lovey
Re: Help to get through it

Hi Lovey,

Hope the docs are getting a handle on things by now and Burt is feeling better soon!

- WBF

Tex   3,897 posts since
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131. Nov 23, 2009 1:02 PM in response to: Lovey
Re: Help to get through it

He really doesn't want to let liver GVH get carried away.  So he's well off there.  I'm surprised they didn't biopsy the skin before talking about a live biopsy.  Or maybe they did and that was among all the poking you mentioned.

 

I'm curious if he'd had a really hot shower.  I've noticed that if I take a long super hot shower I can have issues breathing.  I think that's more age than SCT.  Could be coincidence...or not.  But if the doc's not worried, I try not to be anymore than I have to.

 

Keep us posted.

 

Blessings

KyGuy   1,271 posts since
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132. Nov 23, 2009 2:50 PM in response to: Tex
Re: Help to get through it

Tex wrote:

 

I'm curious if he'd had a really hot shower. 

 

That's a good point - hot showers lower our blood pressure and that could have been the cause.

marta   99 posts since
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133. Nov 24, 2009 11:37 AM in response to: KyGuy
Re: Help to get through it

Lovey,

I am sorry to hear , that Burt is back to the hospital, but, on the other hand, I glad that he is in safe place. I hope , he is felling better soon. You both are in my thoughts and prayers!

Take care . Marta

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