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25 Replies Last post: Nov 13, 2009 2:45 PM by pamd   Go to original post 1 2 Previous Next
pinkydo123   368 posts since
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15. Nov 5, 2009 2:00 PM in response to: KyGuy
Re: AML Rookie and don't understand half of what they are saying.

First off Rick They have to make sure you're body can withstand the Chemo.How old are you by the way??They call it you're performance staus depending on what Chemo regime they will give you.Some Chemo's are cardio-toxic/some are toxic to you're liver/or kidney's etc.So they want to know that you're body can hold up.That may be the reason for the delay.

barlee1   67 posts since
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16. Nov 5, 2009 4:28 PM in response to: KyGuy
Re: AML Rookie and don't understand half of what they are saying.

Rick,

     I can't think of a thing to add to what has already been said.  Just remember to keep hope alive.  There are a number of us here who have survived this disease and are doing well.  The home page of this LLS website has links to lots of information.  You kind of get overloaded at first as it is such a new and steep and rapid learning curve.  But bit by bit, you'll figure it out.  Wishing you the best of luck.

Natasha   26 posts since
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17. Nov 5, 2009 11:17 PM in response to: RGZ
Re: AML Rookie and don't understand half of what they are saying.

I was caregiver, along with my husband, to our son while he was in treatment. (five rounds of chemo spinkled with lots of BMB and port changes.All five rounds - inpatient.) I had a lot of questions. Some may already be posted above, but I thought I'd tell you what I found myself doing and asking.

 

1.) I always asked at least the same question on separate occaisions to see if I was getting the same answer.

 

2.) I asked why - why that drug, why that antibiotic. I explained I wasn't being rude, just wanted/needed to understand.

 

3.) I always asked side affects to everything they put in his body...just to know what to expect.

 

4.) I always asked the risks vs. the benefits. Even if there was no question I was going to consent, I wanted to understand.

 

5.) I always asked a nurse to be present with the doctors - esp. in the beginning. When the white coat scurried away, I would often ask - what did that mean? The nurses were always very willing to help me understand.

 

6.) At first, I asked a lot about stats and figures - but finally realized none of that mattered. No matter how other's responded, my son would respond in his own way.

 

7.) I asked for a copy of the "road map" and referenced it daily...knowing each day what drugs would be administered and why.

 

8.) How many blasts did my son have and what does that mean??

 

9.) What tests will you be doing to determine remission...and how often.

 

I took a lot of notes and kept a notebook handy so when a question poped up, I could jot  it down and pulled it out when the docs came in. I also kept a count journal on the wall, so - like others have mentioned - I could see the trends. I also noted the days he got blood transfusions, when chemo started and ended, etc. I learned quickly that if I didn't understand something...I would ask again and ask them to explain it to me in laymans terms. Of course, you will need to understand what it means to be nutrapenic...but you'll learn that quickly. You can always come here and ask questions. You've been handed a lot. No one understands right away...but you will be a pro soon. Heck...I couldn't even remember today the name of a single standard antibiotic that a normal person takes...just all the "big guns" given when an infection is suspected.

 

I hope this helped...or at least gives you something to work from.

 

Take care and sorry you are having to join us.

Natasha

stagsgirl   109 posts since
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18. Nov 6, 2009 9:25 AM in response to: RGZ
Re: AML Rookie and don't understand half of what they are saying.

Hi Rick. I just wanted to say that all the people you are now connected to on this board can be a great source of information and comfort. Whether you want to ask questions, or just vent your frustrations, please use us!!  You are in a scary place right now but I think that as the days pass, you will start to feel like you are on more solid ground.

I won't add to the medical advice, except to suggest that it helps a lot to have a close friend, partner or spouse be your advocate while in the hospital. I hope you have someone to be there with you as you go through this, to keep records and ask questions. Even if they can't be there with you every day, they can be a link to the medical team and communicate your questions and needs for you.

I'm so sorry you haven't been able to see your children. Are they very young? As a mom, that would be the hardest part for me.  But it won't be that way forever.  Many hospitals recognize the therapeudic value in patients being able to see their loved ones. Hopefully soon you will be reunited with them.  One thing that helps is having lots of photos of your kids in the room with you. My dad used to love showing off pictures of my kids when he was going through chemo - he had AML M4.

Best of luck to you, Rick.

Leslie

Tex   3,909 posts since
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19. Nov 6, 2009 10:21 AM in response to: RGZ
Re: AML Rookie and don't understand half of what they are saying.

Just a quick response.  They are taking your blood draws every day, I'm sure.  They used to write my major numbers (WBC, HGB, PLT) on a white board.  You also can ask for a printout every day so you can document them through the process.  This is blood cancer, I woudln't take "good enough" for an answer.  Well, I probably would have but they educated me about it and I wouldn't now.

 

Just remember to take it at your own pace.  Don't get into information overload.

 

Blessings

Tex   3,909 posts since
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21. Nov 7, 2009 11:14 AM in response to: RGZ
Re: AML Rookie and don't understand half of what they are saying.

Glad you got a source of info.  The nurses are good and reliable but don't forget to do your reading so far as you can or want to.

 

Cytabarine and daunorubicin are typical of the 7+3 regimen.  Etoposide is another chemo they obviously felt will give you an added chance of remission and survival but I don't know what it does specifically.  Really don't know what the other two do specifically for that matter.  I just know the they're part of the norm and the other's an extra.

 

also I'm glad to learn the anti-nausea meds work.  In time they probably won't put you to sleep so easily.

 

Hang in there and keeping us posted.

 

Blessings

pinkydo123   368 posts since
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23. Nov 12, 2009 8:53 PM in response to: RGZ
Re: AML Rookie and don't understand half of what they are saying.

The bone marrow biopsy report on day 14 Rick, to see if you're in remission is the next step, and then treatment team will procede from there.I hope you are feeling o.k so far, no complications is good.

Tex   3,909 posts since
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24. Nov 13, 2009 9:26 AM in response to: RGZ
Re: AML Rookie and don't understand half of what they are saying.

Please get a second opinion on the transplant.  I have no reason to doubt you need one.  It's just always a good practice to verify the need for a transplant.

 

However, auto transpants (donation from yourself) don't have all the issues of an allos (donation from another dperson).  So that's good news so far as it goes.

 

I think that, depending on your sublevel, normal cytogenics could be good, not so good or indifferent.  In my case they theoretically made it more difficult to keep me alive.  I had AML m1 with a history of MDS.  (But I'm hear six years later and have no plans to go anywhere else for quite awhile.)  For you, basically it means you have no genetic abonormalities that helped cause the disease.

 

As for what impact it has on your particular disease, though, you need to ask your doc.  However, I needed an allo transplant which means there was no way I could save myself.  An auto gives you a chance without having to start all over with another person's immune system.  That sounds ptretty good to me.

 

They might want you to have one or two rounds of consolidation chemo.  Again, you'll have to ask them about that.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Blessings

pamd   1,347 posts since
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25. Nov 13, 2009 2:49 PM in response to: RGZ
Re: AML Rookie and don't understand half of what they are saying.

Ricky, I couldn't agree with Tex more. Although, maybe for different reasons. I would definitely get a second opinion on the autologous transplant. There are a lot of variables, and I am certainly not a doctor, just a patient, but in general auto transplants are not usually the first recommendation for an AML diagnosis. Now having said that, there may be times when they are indicated. You could be in that group. But I think it would be well worth your while to get a second opinion on this----if nothing else, it will confirm what you've been told. But you might get some different advice on what type of transplant to consider, and the more info you have, the better armed you'll be to make a good decision on the best type of treatment.

 

Insurance companies are usually eager to pay for second opinions, with such a big, costly decision involved. So you shouldn't encounter trouble there.

 

Keep us posted.

 

Pam

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