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2 Replies Last post: Nov 13, 2009 2:23 AM by PhilB  
Sneezy12   72 posts since
Apr 21, 2009
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Nov 12, 2009 4:53 PM

Log Reduction Calculation Help

My April 28-09 bcr/abl value at diagnosis was 19.81% Raw value, (  NOT the Int. Scale ). My 11-02-09 value was 0.08% Raw value ( Equal to 0.2% on the Int. Scale ). Can someone please tell me the Log Reduction and how to calculate it. Thank you. Frank

Trey   603 posts since
Mar 27, 2009
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1. Nov 12, 2009 8:59 PM in response to: Sneezy12
Re: Log Reduction Calculation Help

Using your diagnosis PCR, your personal starting point would be 19.81%.  Let's just round that off to 20% since it is so close.  Then your log reductions would be as follows:

Baseline: 20%

-1 log:   2%

-2 log   .2%

-3 log:  .02%

 

So your current .08% is between -2 log and -3 log, and is 2/3 closer to -3 log; so approx -2.7 log reduction.

 

This also assumes the same lab did both PCRs.

 

http://www.ciriscience.org/a_107-What_is_Log_Reduction

PhilB   236 posts since
Apr 7, 2009
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2. Nov 13, 2009 2:23 AM in response to: Trey
Re: Log Reduction Calculation Help

Sorry Sneezy, what you have is actually a 2.4 log reduction rather than 2.7.  If you have excel then the easiest way is to first work out your reduction as a fraction:

          0.08 / 19.81 = 0.004038

Then calculate the log of the result using the formula:

          =log10(0.004038)

which gives the result -2.3979.  The '-' indicates that it's a reduction.

Afraid that Trey made the classic error of doing a linear interpolation on a logarithmic scale - even Homer nods!

Phil

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