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KathyK   8 posts since
Nov 4, 2009
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Nov 4, 2009 1:41 PM

What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

Hello everyone! I'm so glad to have found this site; I'm finally hearing the real stories on this disease.  I am in denial, however, after reading your comments, I too, have many of the same side effects while on Gleevec (its only been 2 weeks). I don't recognize myself in the mirror; my eyes are swollen and bloodshot and my stomach......well, you know the rest. I am 50 and have two children and of course we are scared silly. How many years have you surrived to date, what can I expect? I want to enjoy living and don't want to think of the alternative, still quite tired and overwelmed. Thanks for your thoughts. KathyK
Tess Dement   12 posts since
Apr 15, 2009
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1. Nov 4, 2009 3:35 PM in response to: KathyK
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

Hi Kathy,

 

I was dx/2006 and was also overwhelmed in the beginning but hang in there, it got better for me and I hope it does for you also.  I went to see Doctor Druker (he created gleevec) last year and he told me that the life expectancy is about 30 years, and probably more since by then there will most likely be more treatment options and hopefully a cure. I hope this helps to ease your mind. Take Care, Tess.

Buzzm1   54 posts since
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3. Nov 4, 2009 5:01 PM in response to: KathyK
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

This means that I can live to be 100.   YES!!

Trey   621 posts since
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4. Nov 4, 2009 7:26 PM in response to: KathyK
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

Here is some additional info from a previous posting:

 

http://community.lls.org/thread/2600?tstart=0

PhilB   236 posts since
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5. Nov 5, 2009 7:05 AM in response to: KathyK
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

Hi Kathy and welcome aboard.

As the others have said, for the great majority of us life expectancy will probably be normal (although we may spend slightly more of it napping) and we will eventually die of something else.  You may even live longer than otherwise as there is some evidence that Gleevec lowers cholesterol

 

With more drugs already in the pipeline to deal with the few mutations that the current drugs don't cover, I won't be surprised if in a few years' time the main causes of CML- related death are:

  1. Traffic accident following cramp in your accelerator foot; and
  2. Shrapnel wounds from exploding porcelain...

 

I hope your side effects improve (they do for many people).  Keep positive, keep taking the little orange pills and I look forward to hearing of your progress.  If you have any queries at all then this is the place to come.

 

Phil

helenet   36 posts since
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6. Nov 5, 2009 12:49 PM in response to: PhilB
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

Phil,

You crack me up-- I love the "Traffic accident following cramp in your accelerator foot"!  How true for all of us and how strange our "new normal" is.  It is good to have a sight to share all this on!

Kathy-- as for your question-- I have also heard 30 years.  This is just with the meds and data currently out there. However for the younger folks on this sight I am certain that so much more will come our way.  After you get used to having this disease (once the shock wears off and you realize there is a lot of hope) there will be days that you do not even give it a thought{:  It might be helpful to read Trey's response in another thread "Cure for CML? Interferon + Gleevec".  In this thread Trey suggests a hypotheses “Might it be possible that we can outlive CML" and the "CML drugs allow us to live long enough that they divide themselves out of existence."  What a magnificent thought!

We were all horrified and frightened in the beginning.  It helps to have our support group.  Hang in there- and keep us posted on your progress!

Susan61   244 posts since
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7. Nov 6, 2009 10:48 PM in response to: KathyK
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

Hi Kathy:

     I am reading all the answers to your question, and I also heard 30 years, but probably more.  I was diagnosed in 1998, and like Phil said we probably will be doing a lot of napping.  It seems like the Fatigue is the worst for me.  I deal with all the other side effects.  I am in Remission, but we have  people who have never achieved a remission and still going on their medications.  Keep posting with any questions you have.  Your still new to all of this.

    You will meet a bunch of great people, who are always ready to help you in any way they can.

    Glad you  joined us.

 

Susan

MomMom   192 posts since
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8. Nov 6, 2009 10:58 PM in response to: Susan61
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

Hi, Kathy,

     i'm, Kay, diagnosed July 2008, welcome to our little neighborhood. Like Susan said you will find support, encouragement and informaton here.  Feel free to ask quesitons about anything at all and we are all here for you.

 

Kay

Buzzm1   54 posts since
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9. Nov 6, 2009 11:53 PM in response to: MomMom
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

Hi Kathy.

 

Sorry to be flippant earlier.

 

Welcome to the forum.

 

a safe place to commiserate with each other, but also a place to share the joys of our lives

 

Just diagnosed; scheduled to begin Gleevec on Dec. 11th, coincident with a bone marrow test.

 

yes, the list of possible side effects, from Gleevec, et al, is as long as my arm; perhaps longer.

 

I can only sympathize with you, and all of us, but it certainly beats the alternative.

 

Swollen eyes probably means you get to wear sunglasses all through the winter.

 

I'll be making all the dietary adjustments, I can, to combat the edema

 

I take BP medication, diuretics, Lopressor, Losartan; they play with my potassiium levels, so i eat a banana a day, dried prunes, apricots, pomegranate juice.

 

I normally eat large quantities of fruit; but fruit apparently doesn't combine well with Gleevec, so I'll need to change some of it out.

 

I need to develop a regimen of supplements, including CoQ-10; already have enough muscle spasms, cramps, pain; don't need any more.

 

never stop sharing; from my short experience with this forum; there's a wealth of knowledge and experience here for our edification.

 

fortunate for us

 

Buzz

PhilB   236 posts since
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10. Nov 7, 2009 2:14 AM in response to: Buzzm1
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

We're not allowed to be flippant?  Whoops!  I'm in trouble...

 

Grapefruit is the only fruit we specifically need to avoid with Gleevec as it interferes with the processing of G by the liver.

 

It's probably best not to try and second guess the side effects you'll have before they happen.  There are a very wide range, but none of them happen to everyone.  Whenever you get a discussion of a particular side effect it can seem like everyone on here has it, but only because those who don't have it won't be leaping in to post 'I don't have that' in the middle of the thread.  By all means do the research and get your plans ready for how you'll deal with a side effect if it does happen, but don't turn your life upside down trying to pre-treat problems you don't have and may never get.  You'll also have difficulties doinfg so as in many cases completely opposite side effects are listed for G eg constipation AND sharts.

 

Best wishes

Phil

everonward   52 posts since
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11. Nov 7, 2009 6:23 AM in response to: KathyK
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

Hi Kathy

 

I was dx Oct 2005 so 4 years ago now. My onc has said that I can expect a long life, as long as nothing else gets me.   I was 46 when dx and my children were 12 and 10 so this was a relief.

 

I don't post too often, but just to let you know I am on 400mg Glivec and while not attaining PCRU my last PCR was 0.08% (Kings's in London UK don't use the log reduction system we just get a % number). I have been marching down from 0.7 % at 12 months PCR, so a slow but steady fall.

 

As for side effects, all my initial side effects have gone, with the exception of occasional finger, toe cramps - have inccreased my intake of bananas as I finf this helps. My eyes can be puffy in th emorning if I haven't drunk enough water during the previous day, or I have drunk too many glasses of wine at a party. Stomach issues are easing but pop along to remind me I'm on G every now and again, been OK lately so I say this with everything crossed. The weight I put on has now started to drop off slowly, after months of dieting not working, although I do only need to lose a couple of pounds to put me back to pre skinny dx stage. Had 2 eyes bleeds in the whole 4 years and nothing else.

 

I work as a supply teacher ( 5 - 11 yr olds) - so part time really (well most weeks) but I am looking for a full time post now.

 

This is a great site for questions and support.

 

I just wanted to show that not all of us suffer from side effects and do live a normal and active life. In fact the taking of the Glivec at dinner has become part of our routine. When the chidlren set the table one of them puts my little gold tab by my water glass.

 

ATB

Marian

janekaye   126 posts since
Apr 3, 2009
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12. Nov 7, 2009 3:19 PM in response to: everonward
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

Hi Marian,

Just thought I would throw this out for discussion.  When you mentioned your children putting out your Gleevec tablet, it occurred to me that I was told and also read that others should not handle the pills.

Trey can probably weigh in on that and give us the definitive truth --- but I've been very careful with my pills (now on Sprycel) because I read that in the beginning.  Anyone else ever hear that?

 

Take care,

-janekaye

Trey   621 posts since
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13. Nov 7, 2009 3:36 PM in response to: janekaye
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

Generally, Gleevec is very safe to handle since it is coated in iron oxide (rust).  The inner core has the following cautions about handling Gleevec:

"women who are pregnant or who may become pregnant should not handle this medication"

"Gleevec tablets should not be crushed. Direct contact of crushed tablets with the skin or mucous membranes should be avoided. If such contact occurs, wash thoroughly as outlined in the references. Personnel should avoid exposure to crushed tablets."

These cautions are likely required by Lawyers.  The one about crushed Gleevec is because Gleevec can inhibit cKIT enymes in the skin (i.e., rashes can occur).

 

I would encourage continuing the ritual of putting out the Gleevec and water.  Sounds therapeutic for the family.

Nessie   4 posts since
Apr 18, 2009
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14. Nov 8, 2009 1:47 AM in response to: Tess Dement
Re: What is life expectancy with Gleevec?

wait, I'm only 22. Does that mean I should expect to live only until I'm 52? I have another rare disease as well.

 

wow, this is really a downer I feel so sad now

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