Hi all I am a first time poster although I frequently read the boards. I was diagnosed last June (26th) with Stage 2A Hodgkins and was subsequently treated with 4 rounds of ABVD chemo and 15 treatments of radiation and finished everything up on December 30th and went back to life. I went back to school and was starting at a new school in January and at the time it was pretty obvious I had been through something since I had a lack of hair and I didn't have a hard time telling people about the cancer. However since then I have experienced hair growth like a chia pet on steriods and am sporting a poofy short hair do. I just recently started a job for the summer well it was back in june anyways nobody in my section of the office knows my history and thats fine except my coworker looked at my drivers licence the other day and was like "whoa you used to have long hair, when did you cut it?" and I am just like ahhh... I never know what to say when people who don't know I was sick comment on my hair its so akward and I don't know what to say. The same thing happens with people who I know but didnt't know I was sick. I don't care if people know I had cancer I am not ashamed to say I am a survivor, I just don't want to be like ya I had cancer and blurt it out to make the situation way more akward more so for them! Has anyone else felt like this / delt with this?
Any insight is much appericated!
Aw hell kini,
Just charge straight ahead with the rabble and play that ca card any time you can use it to your advantage. The big joke with me and my pards in Dixie is when I get all big eyed and tearful and say, "You know I had the Cancer"!
Folks what ain't never had the experience ain't gonna' get you no matter what. Folks what lives have been touched, and there are more of those than you can imagine, will get it.
There are those who get it and those who never will, go figure!
Best
Later...
rbiii
I just had to post this video as an example of what some folks get and what some folks don't get.
I'd just say, "Oh, I lost my hair from chemo," and leave it at that.
I guess the bottom line is to be true to yourself. I see it as an opportunity to celebrate the fact I'm past it everytime I get a chance to say cancer is in my past. And maybe it gives someone hope. Who knows? Your co-worker could have a family member going through cancer right now and would love to hear a good word. Proably not. But it's possible.
I feel very akward when someone asks me about my hair and Im embarassed for them. Although they have no idea I had cancer, I know they'll feel bad, weird when I tell them that that is the reason I had short hair. And I don't want anyone to feel bad for me. Being 18 months out of chemo I try to avoid the subject more and more. I guess I just want to "fit back in" with everyone. Not talk about it or dwell on it.
Thanks for all the thoughts I appericate the advice I agree I don't mind talking about it at all because I think as a young person you don't encounter that to often and I know I would be intrigued. Its more along the lines of what Jordy said I feel like it could turn into this horribly akward situation more so on their end as I've encountered this situation a few times and it was with people who knew me that I hadn't seen in awhile and they were inquiring about my hair and I just said oh well I cut it not by choice! and then had to explain and I felt so bad because it was akward for them. I also don't want people to feel bad for me because I know what I went through was a big deal and i'll deal with it the rest of my life, but I look around the cancer clinic and I think of the people in there climbing a larger hill than mine and while I have a little room to complain, life could always be worse. I would rather people learn from me that cancer can affect anyone it doesn't pick and choose and its not fun. I have cousins who are the type of people that like to make everything dramatic and when I was diganosed it was oh poor you thats terrible and their grandfather just passed away from a long battle with cancer. Yet there they are outside smoking lord knows how many cigs a day everday at age 18. I never smoked 1 cig in my life and tried to life a decently healthy lifestyle .. yet I got cancer. I don't blame them its not their fault my cells decided to go A - wall but I wish they would see thats its not fun and 'it'll never happen to me' doesn't apply with cancer.. sorry about that rant it just drives me nuts!
I had a really hard time after I finished treatment and sort of still do trying to relate to people my age now Jordy and I know the feeling of want to just be you again not with the cancer ball attached at the hip but its part of who I am now just the same as if I had won some award or accomplished something else important
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Jenn
Well, I can only say I've never had an awkward situation in telling someone I had cancer. Most people have experienced it on some level and it's as much a part of me as being a Cowboys fan. It's who I am, people deal with that just fine.
Being one who has reached "old codger" status to 18 year-olds, I'll sometimes walk by a group of them smoking and say, "Ya'll need to stop smking now before you're really hooked. When you're 50 and get cancer it's really hell to stop." (It is.)
I've never seen anyone stomp out a ciggy. But no one's ever rolled their eyes at me either. Who knows? Someone might have thought about it and stopped.
When I took my bald self back to work (as a nurse no less) I told anyone who asked that I took some time off work to get chemo. It was really weird and some of my collegues didn't know what to say, but after a few years of normalcy, it's no big deal anymore. Just bite the bullet and enjoy the ride.
Theresa
I understand what you are saying, I am a 29 year old Hodgkin's stage 4 survivor. I am always wanting to help people with cancer and all that fun stuff but when I am caught off guard with a question like that sometimes I end up just blurting out something like..."Yeah, I had cancer" with a huge smile and it always seems like people step back and say oh, well you are so happy and I say.."Yeah, I would do it again if I had my life to do over"
That all seems to come out without me even thinking. I feel like I always get the deer in the headlights look....
Sometimes I try to say funny stuff like my head caught on fire, then they say "what" and then I say " just joking I had cancer"
Hope this helps! ![]()
We all respond to news of an illness in a different way. If some people pull away it is because the news threatens their own sense of mortality and the reaction is about them, not about us. I finally had to just let the rude or difficult comments slide away because it made ME feel better. I remember pulling away from a friend who had terminal lung cancer because I didn't know what to do for her. Now when somebody ask pleadingly what they can do I ask them to vacuum my rug or change my sheets. Those are things that are hard to do when you're sick. Sometimes I don't know if I should share my experience or not, but then I remember that the world cannot grow and learn about cancer if we don't share. I'm sure it is more difficult for everyone who works in the regular work force. I work at home when I'm up to it.
Hang in there keep on telling people about your dangerous adventure.
HeartGirl wrote:
If some people pull away it is because the news threatens their own sense of mortality and the reaction is about them, not about us
Sometimes, that's true. But notice your reason for pulling away from your friend. You didn't know what to do.
I think sometimes it's not just about touching on the other's sense of mortality. Sometimes it's just such a gigantic concept that some people are completely overwhelmed.
I love the video on you tube. Very funny. Uplifting!!
I have to agree that I just blurt it out. I went around pussy-footing about people so I didn't hurt their feelings for awhile, but then decided that if I wanted to change things, I needed people to know the truth. Sometimes people would ask in the rudest way and I didn't have a problem telling them that I had cancer. It usually shut them up. It also showed the truly caring people that people do survive. I never thought about it before going through chemo that afterwards is really more traumatic than during. During, you had a lot to keep you occupied. Now, you are just trying to be "normal". Once I figured out that I will never be normal and accepted it, I figured this will help people see that you can live through it. I can remember trying to think of people who had survived when I first was diagnosed and had a hard time coming up with a list. Then I remembered people don't go around wearing a sticker saying "Hey, I had cancer." I figured maybe this would help others. As long as your feelings are ok, say it how you want. Your feelings are more important. You're the one who went through this. Not saying be mean, but direct works with a lot of people.
Hi, I had a previous insight for you, but as days go on and I see other people far worse off than I am I think just being alive erases any awkwardness for me. I have non Hodgkin's follicular lymphoma and to be brief about it, my doctors tell me it WILL come back. Hey, alive is a good thing and so is remission and I'm thankful for it every day. I'm pretty up front about having had cancer treatment and if people say, "I'm so sorry." I tell them that I'm not. I learned a lot and have a new perspective on life. Being changed forever is not a bad thing. Being changed forever gives us a chance to look at who we are and what we want to be doing with our lives. I try to think of it as a great big scar (I have one from the surgery) that is there forever but it is a reminder than I am the one who gets to choose what my life means and what it is about. I'm alive to choose yet and that is a big HOORAY as far as I can see it.
I talked with a counsellor after all of this and it was great help. Sometimes big things need to be shared with people that can help.
Best of growth to you,
Heart Girl
Thanks to all that replyed it is really helpful to hear other peoples experience with this issue and just life after cancer period! I have no problem being blunt about it because I think talking about my experiences have definitly helped me cope with it and I think it actually releases tension from those curious minds since they know its ok to ask me questions and/or talk about it! ![]()
With regularity, this issue pops up on all the cancer boards I’ve watched (and occasionally post to) for almost ten years. I think it’s because there’s a constant stream of new recruits being drafted into the ranks of “survivors” who feel the need to (choose one:) vent, advise, support, justify or ? their personal Big C adventure.
For most, this is the first encounter with cancer, so there’s a huge mental hit which initially takes place. Like whacking a giant metal gong, a massive oscillation in our outlook on life takes place. This sine wave of reaction seems to follow a similar pattern for most of us (the usual: why me, can’t be, ok I’ll deal with it) which slowly damps over time.
Lots of panic in initial postings. Too often it seems, there’s a frantic grabbing for magic answers from any piece of flim-flam found. As we each find our own footing, via sound medical advice and treatment, the oscillations get smaller and smaller. Postings generally taper off as our situation improves, or at least stabilizes. As the oscillations dampen, eventually we reach the “survivor” stage. At this point we’ve all experienced a pronounced change in mental state, but many have also undergone a substantial alteration in their physical body. Hair loss, surgery scars and radiation damage to name a few of these insults.
If there’s been no outward change in appearance, how would anyone know our history, if we didn’t somehow, in some way, bring the subject up? After my prostatectomy (2001), the scar from my navel down to pubic bone is seen only by my army of MD's and my wife. Nevertheless in those early years, I often felt the need to “share” my experience on many occasions, which I now see as survivor pride mixed with a quest for reassurance that I had made the “right” choice in aggressively attacking that cancer.
Years later, the squamous and basal skin cancers left only small scars, unnoticeable amidst the face-first-thru-the-windshield car wreck and old age wrinkles. Significantly less evangelical on that cancer go-around.
The nHL CVP-R chemo two years ago thinned my hair a bit and each cycle regularly knocked me on my backside but otherwise left me looking my usual svelte self (sorry, I just couldn't resist the alliteration). If asked, I’d provide information but otherwise (other than these boards) I could remain mostly anonymous on the subject.
The CVP-R and Rituxan maintenance didn’t hold and as a result, the 4500 cGY of radiation completed two months ago has taken a big patch of hair off the left side of my head. Unless I’m wearing my Snoopy Aviator’s cap…this much hair loss invites questions. Ten years out, after multiple cancers and achieving the ripe old age of 66 (while still being able to run 20 miles a week and bike 100), awkwardness is a non-issue. I'm happy to be upright and ambulatory. When someone asks (and several have) I’ll gladly tell them about nHL and radiation treatments. As for all the curious others, if they don’t ask, I don't tell.