Here's a news article about some recent research.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7973678.stm
It suggests that a number of triggers are required for Leukemia to happen in children, starting with pre-leukemic cells in the womb, and finally an "unusual immune response"
4 years before diagnosis Sabrina had an extreme allergic reaction where her face became imflamed like a beach ball for 2 weeks, I've often wondered if this severe immune response might have had something to do with her later leukemia.
This is also interesting: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7192420.stm
Alex first started getting sick a week or so after falling off of a 5 foot retainer wall. He wasn't seriously hurt in the fall itself. My theory on that is that he had the cancer cells inactivated and somehow the impact from the fall activated them. When I brought it up to Alex's doctors they didn't think the two were related in any way. Before falling Alex had not been sick - no infections or no recent vaccinations. I'm curious if any other of the kids started getting sick after an injury.
king Alex,
That is soo interresting. I have friends in the medical world that asked if my son had any head injuries (minor or major) before diagnosis as well as any body trauma i.e. falls,bumps, torso bruising They told me "unresearched" medical talk is that it is not uncommon to find 3-6 months prior to dx some sort of accident I can't really give you any more information as I said it is just a common thread they have noticed in being around leukemia. Not always true though for my son there was no such accident or injury. I can relate to the sleepless nights others have spoken about wondering what,how this happened to my son. I try not to dwell and beat myself up, but sometimes I can't shut it out. My son had severe bacterial pneumonia 5mths prior to dx(B-cell ALL), before that he was very healthy. I have 2 other kids and all 3 were breastfed, my leukemia kid was breastfed the longest and I have to say I was the healthiest during his preganancy...who knows!? I suppose if we could find the answers we are all looking for we would have the cure or at least the ability to prevent leukemia and from what I have read/heard so far we are unfortunately a long way off....
King Alex -- how long was it from when he got sick to when he was actually diagnosed, and what was his WBC number at the time he was diagnosed?
Sam was diagnosed on Jan. 15th, 2004, and had a WBC at the time of 48,000. He had been to the Dr. with what we thought was flu (body and bone aches, intermittent nausea, low fevers, headaches) on Dec. 17th, 2003.
Our docs told us that their best guess is that the first leukemic cell probably formed in his body sometime just before Thanksgiving of 2003. (And told us that even if we had blood drawn on Dec. 17th, it probably would have not shown anything more than mildly elevated WBC, which one would have expected with the flu, and that no one could have determined that he had leukemia on Dec. 17th, unless you had an oncologist look at the blood of everyone who had flu symptoms).
Can't correlate anything to the "trigger" hypothesis, though. He was always healthy as a horse, his entire life.
I'm now wracking my brain to think of something traumatic that might have happened around the time Emma got sick. I think I have it pinpointed to late June/early July. She came home from a 10-day beach vacation with her Dad and she had what I thought were freckles but turned out to be petichiae. But as far as I know, she didn't have a fever or any sort of hard fall or anything.
Interesting theory, though.
Alex fell off the retainer wall and seemed fine. (his sister said he landed on his feet then fell forward) Two days later he started limping and when he would turn or twist a certain way he would cry and say he hurt. I ended up taking him to his doctor - X-rays were fine - took him to my chiropractor and he adjusted him. Alex seemed fine then about a week later he slipped and twisted his ankle and complained from that for a few days. I guess it was about 2 weeks later that Alex started having fevers - but he was teething at the time and biting on everything so I didn't end up taking him to the doctor until his stomach distended after about a week into intermittent fevers. I don't remember what his WBC count was. It just seemed like I had a healthy happy kid until he fell off the wall. I guess things could have been brewing in his body before that - who knows. I have always wondered if that fall triggered it. I was just curious if anyone else had an injury before getting sick. It seemed like everyone was mentioning vaccinations and viral infections and such.
Gina
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It’s parent nature to question the causes and events that could’ve contribute to our kids diagnoses. I often relate to parents of autistic children who had a normal healthy developing child to only start noticing the sometimes irreversible signs of Autism. They voiced their concerns and found some commonalities in their children’s diagnoses ( like the link between Autism and thimerosal containing vaccines). Studies failed to show a connection but the group of parents who believe the MMR vaccine trigged their children’s Autism continues to grow.
I personally would like to choose to spend my time researching or educating myself towards a cure rather than ‘what cause it?’ but this question will always haunted me and I think and know it’s perfectly OKAY!
One thing we ALL know. There are no definitive answers at this point to what the causes are. But there are a number of good possibilities. We should continue voicing our observations, concerns, ideas, theories, feelings, hypothesis, etc. From where I stand it is NOT a waste of time.
Dominique mom of Nathan, DX 02/07 at almost 3, PreB ALL, Tel-aml1, one ear infection 2 months prior DX, extremely healthy, tested positive for Epstein Barr virus at DX, straightly breastfed until 6 months old (breast milk ONLY) and breastfed until he was 13 months, had a swollen Lymph Node in his groin at 12 months after the MMR that only went down after chemo started, 80% organic diet. Paint and construction in our home and work in the 1st trimester of pregnancy. We live about 5 miles away from Exon refinery and 2 miles from an inactive toxic Landfill (cape in the 80s). We used to live less than a mile from power lines when conceived. I quit smoking cigarettes 6 months before conceiving. No drugs or alcohol abuse history. No Leukemia history in both families. Blood/autoimmune disorder history (Grandmother has Lupus).
Goodness knows what triggered my sons leukemia but there are several things which make me wonder. His father's exposure to benzene (worked on oil rig drill floor) over many years, a ripped up knee after a nasty fall a few months prior to diagnosis, a dog bite 1 year prior to diagnosis, and numerous 'bugs' just before he developed t-cell ALL.
Scott was breastfed until he was 2, attended playgroup, didnt eat meat, was all in all a pretty healthy kid until the age of 10 ... until the shit hit the fan.
This is a very interesting thread. Seems like here, and in other places I've found, people meniton vaccines or significant illnesses in the few weeks/months prior to diagnosis more than anything else. For my son -- he's had his fair share of injuries and illnesses in his lifetime. Hospitialized for several weeks as a newborn w/ RSV, ear tubes/tonsillectomy at age 2, hit by a truck at age 5 (scary with head trauma/concussion, but no major injuries), major hand injury requiring 27 stitches at age 7. Ten months before diagnosis, he got a concussion and head trauma from a flag football game, but docs checked him out and said he was fine. Less than two months after that, he started having tonic-clonic seizures and was diagnosed w/ epilepsy. (Because of the location of the seizures' origins, neurologist says they are not related to the two major head traumas, but I'll always wonder.) Eight months after the epilepsy was diagnosed and controlled by meds, at age 10, he started having bad headaches -- his neurologist thought these were being caused by partial mini-seizures and upped his meds, but to rule anything else out his pediatrician ordered a CBC, which of course led us to the leukemia diagnosis. But other than a bout with strep throat in November, he had no illnesses, injuries, or vaccinations in the several months prior to his ALL dx in March. His white count at dx was 38,600 with 92% blasts in his bone marrow. The docs told us they thought the cancer cells started about a 3-6 weeks prior to diagnosis.
Kristen
I don't as "why", but I ask "how". I'm not sure that I will ever know. There were no powerlines, waste dumps etc where we were living when Eli was concevied. We don't smoke, drink or do drugs. We don't work with chemicals or radiation. Eli has never had an ear infection, strep throat, RSV, croup, broken bone nothing, just ALL and Guillain Barre Syndrome (as a result of the chemo- we think). I am a registered nurse and was working in a hospital while I was pregnant (a three month vacation while we were trying to conceive). I suppose the only trauma I can remember was that Eli bumped his mouth on his dad's knee and jarred his front teeth about 4 months before diagnosis. Hmmm. that's about the time frame that the onc thought this all started- but I think that was a guess. (And if that's the case, all my boys have knocked out their front teeth, yet only one with cancer)
Kristen,
Justin also diagnosed at age 10 with pre-b ALL, was hospitalized with RSV at 4 months of age. Other than that, no serious illnesses/injuries. Justin was bottle fed within a few days of birth because he developed "breast-feeding jaundice" and I gave up. The only surgery he had was removal of adenoids because of labored breathing at night. Two theories I have read that I found interesting were 1) keeping our kids too healthy/germ free during the first year of life, and 2) eating too much processed meat? Both are just crazy! My other son's only difference in upbringing (age 8) is that I was able to breast feed for 11 months. We also wondered after diagnosis if our granite counters and stone floors might be emitting too much radon in our house--so we had it tested and it was fine. I think it's natural to wonder, but agree that it's not very productive to dwell---but it's hard.
As to the "too much processed meat" theory, there is pretty definitive medical research discounting that. I had listed all the reseach on a thread on the old boards (RIP) a couple of years ago. I will have to go back and see if I can find that information.
Doug
Here's the comprehensive study done which pretty clearly dispells any link between either the mother's or the child's consumption of hot dogs and processed meats and the incidence of leukemia.
Birth Weights Linked to Leukemia Risk
Interesting---Justin weighed 8 lbs. 2 oz. I believe. I wonder what is considered "high birth weight"?